Senate Democrats float filibuster carveout for debt ceiling

Senate Democrats float filibuster carveout for debt ceiling

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Senate Democrats are discussing creating an exemption from the filibuster for the debt ceiling, even as they acknowledge that it’s unclear they have the support in their caucus for such a move.

The idea was brought up during a closed-door caucus lunch on Tuesday, sources confirmed to The Hill, as Democrats try to figure out how to avoid a historic debt default. 

Sen. Dick DurbinDick DurbinManchin open to debt hike through reconciliation, rules out nixing filibuster Democrats offer options for passing infrastructure, reconciliation bills Sunday shows – Democrats’ stalemate dominates MORE (D-Ill.), who told reporters as recently as Monday that there were not active talks, confirmed to The Hill on Tuesday that Democrats are now discussing a filibuster carveout for the debt ceiling. 

“There are discussions,” he told The Hill, asked about the status of potential talks.

Creating such an exemption would take total unity within the 50-member conference and Vice President Harris presiding to break a tie, a bar it’s not clear Democrats could meet.

“We have very few options right now, so one of the options clearly is to have a narrow change in rules,” said Sen. Chris MurphyChristopher (Chris) Scott MurphySenate Democrats dial down the Manchin tension Photos of the Week: Congressional Baseball Game, ashen trees and a beach horse Debt fight revives Democrats’ filibuster angst MORE (D-Conn.).

Murphy, in an apparent reference to the dynamics with the caucus, added, “I don’t know where all my colleagues are.” 

Sen. Ben CardinBenjamin (Ben) Louis CardinDemocrats pour cold water on Manchin’s .5T price tag Lawmakers say innovation, trade rules key to small business gains The Hill’s Morning Report – Presented by Alibaba – Biden jumps into frenzied Dem spending talks MORE (D-Md.) added that he personally supports changes to the 60-vote filibuster rule, but deferred to leadership about if he thought Democrats could win over Sens. Joe ManchinJoe ManchinSchumer sets up Wednesday vote to suspend debt ceiling Overnight Energy & Environment — California lawmakers clash over oil spill Attacks on Sinema turn increasingly personal MORE (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten SinemaKyrsten SinemaAttacks on Sinema turn increasingly personal Biden to hit the road in economic agenda push California Democrats blast offshore drilling in oil spill’s wake MORE (D-Ariz.), two opponents to changing the Senate’s filibuster that requires 60 votes for passing most legislation.

“I’m telling you it’s urgent. We’ve got to get it done sooner rather than later,” Cardin added about the debt ceiling.

Biden, asked about a carve out for the debt ceiling, told CNN that it was a “real possibility.”

“That’s a real possibility,” President BidenJoe BidenTop US and Israeli security officials to discuss Iran, Palestinians in Washington On The Money — Presented by NRHC — Biden plays debt limit hardball with McConnell Highway bill’s long and winding road MORE tells me when asked if Democrats are considering a carveout in the filibuster to raise the debt limit.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) October 5, 2021

Democrats have been under growing pressure to nix the legislative filibuster with the stalemate with Republicans over how to raise the debt ceiling pouring new fuel into those calls.

But Manchin indicated to reporters on Monday that he didn’t view gutting the filibuster as connected to the fight over the debt ceiling.

“The filibuster has nothing to do with debt ceiling. Basically, we have other tools that we can use, and if we have to use them we should use them,” Manchin said on Monday.

Asked about his Democratic colleagues floating creating an exemption from the filibuster for the debt ceiling, Manchin on Tuesday evening pointed to Senate leadership.

“They got to work through it. Let the leaders work it out, they should work it out. They both know what this country needs,” Manchin told reporters on Tuesday.

Congress has until Oct. 18 to raise the debt ceiling or risk default. 

Republicans have twice blocked debt ceiling suspensions as they try to force Democrats to raise it in their own through reconciliation, a budget process that lets them bypass the filibuster.

But Democrats have so far refused to put that on the table and several were adamant on Tuesday after the closed-door lunch that it was a non-starter.

“It’s impossible to do that now,” said Sen. Sherrod BrownSherrod Campbell BrownSenate confirms Chopra to lead Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Yellen chastises GOP as debt default countdown begins Yellen, Democrats chastise GOP as debt default countdown starts MORE (D-Ohio). “There’s too many pitfalls, it takes too long.”

Updated at 7:08 p.m.

Senate Democrats are discussing creating an exemption from the filibuster for the debt ceiling, even as they acknowledge that it’s unclear they have the support in their caucus for such a move.The idea was brought up during a closed-door caucus lunch on Tuesday, sources confirmed to The Hill, as Democrats try to figure out how to avoid a historic debt default. Sen. Dick DurbinDick DurbinManchin open to debt hike through reconciliation, rules out nixing filibuster Democrats offer options for passing infrastructure, reconciliation bills Sunday shows – Democrats’ stalemate dominates MORE (D-Ill.), who told reporters as recently as Monday that there were not active talks, confirmed to The Hill on Tuesday that Democrats are now discussing a filibuster carveout for the debt ceiling. “There are discussions,” he told The Hill, asked about the status of potential talks.Creating such an exemption would take total unity within the 50-member conference and Vice President Harris presiding to break a tie, a bar it’s not clear Democrats could meet.“We have very few options right now, so one of the options clearly is to have a narrow change in rules,” said Sen. Chris MurphyChristopher (Chris) Scott MurphySenate Democrats dial down the Manchin tension Photos of the Week: Congressional Baseball Game, ashen trees and a beach horse Debt fight revives Democrats’ filibuster angst MORE (D-Conn.).Murphy, in an apparent reference to the dynamics with the caucus, added, “I don’t know where all my colleagues are.” Sen. Ben CardinBenjamin (Ben) Louis CardinDemocrats pour cold water on Manchin’s .5T price tag Lawmakers say innovation, trade rules key to small business gains The Hill’s Morning Report – Presented by Alibaba – Biden jumps into frenzied Dem spending talks MORE (D-Md.) added that he personally supports changes to the 60-vote filibuster rule, but deferred to leadership about if he thought Democrats could win over Sens. Joe ManchinJoe ManchinSchumer sets up Wednesday vote to suspend debt ceiling Overnight Energy & Environment — California lawmakers clash over oil spill Attacks on Sinema turn increasingly personal MORE (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten SinemaKyrsten SinemaAttacks on Sinema turn increasingly personal Biden to hit the road in economic agenda push California Democrats blast offshore drilling in oil spill’s wake MORE (D-Ariz.), two opponents to changing the Senate’s filibuster that requires 60 votes for passing most legislation.“I’m telling you it’s urgent. We’ve got to get it done sooner rather than later,” Cardin added about the debt ceiling.Biden, asked about a carve out for the debt ceiling, told CNN that it was a “real possibility.””That’s a real possibility,” President BidenJoe BidenTop US and Israeli security officials to discuss Iran, Palestinians in Washington On The Money — Presented by NRHC — Biden plays debt limit hardball with McConnell Highway bill’s long and winding road MORE tells me when asked if Democrats are considering a carveout in the filibuster to raise the debt limit.— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) October 5, 2021Democrats have been under growing pressure to nix the legislative filibuster with the stalemate with Republicans over how to raise the debt ceiling pouring new fuel into those calls.But Manchin indicated to reporters on Monday that he didn’t view gutting the filibuster as connected to the fight over the debt ceiling.“The filibuster has nothing to do with debt ceiling. Basically, we have other tools that we can use, and if we have to use them we should use them,” Manchin said on Monday.Asked about his Democratic colleagues floating creating an exemption from the filibuster for the debt ceiling, Manchin on Tuesday evening pointed to Senate leadership.“They got to work through it. Let the leaders work it out, they should work it out. They both know what this country needs,” Manchin told reporters on Tuesday.Congress has until Oct. 18 to raise the debt ceiling or risk default. Republicans have twice blocked debt ceiling suspensions as they try to force Democrats to raise it in their own through reconciliation, a budget process that lets them bypass the filibuster.But Democrats have so far refused to put that on the table and several were adamant on Tuesday after the closed-door lunch that it was a non-starter.”It’s impossible to do that now,” said Sen. Sherrod BrownSherrod Campbell BrownSenate confirms Chopra to lead Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Yellen chastises GOP as debt default countdown begins Yellen, Democrats chastise GOP as debt default countdown starts MORE (D-Ohio). “There’s too many pitfalls, it takes too long.”Updated at 7:08 p.m.

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